Igniting the best in all of us - Kashaun Cooper || Don’t Pick The Scab Podcast 018 || David M. Webb

Kashaun comes to us from the warm city of Atlanta, GA where he is a motivational speaker, exceptional author and founder of Champion Nation - an organization dedicated to transforming the lives of men, women and children everywhere. It felt like two friends having coffee discussing all about the healing and wellness spaces. After sharing his history from childhood on, Kashaun dives into some of his favorite topics - the ABC’s of self-motivation, ‘we are built to last’ story and reality, and the 5 C’s to building confidence and self-esteem. Hanging with Mr. Cooper has never been so much fun! I look forward to hanging out with him again and getting some more pearls for my divorce men over 40. Kashaun uses the metaphor of a tree and its leaves to illustrate resilience and the importance of staying connected to something greater while addressing common misconceptions and roadblocks to healing and wellness.

Takeaways:

-becoming the man of the house at a young age can shape one's life and instill a sense of responsibility and protection

-the five C's to building confidence and esteem are courage, commitment, communication, competence, and consideration

-loving oneself is essential for personal growth and well-being

-considering things from every angle allows for a more comprehensive understanding of situations and promotes better decision-making

-it takes courage to look at the mirror

-four stages of life

-find out what your burning desire is

-failure is not final

-Spirit Airlines, touch and go

-don’t rush the process

-roadblock of time and/or money

-A=B, B=C, then A=C

-we can’t give what we don’t have

-fall on your back

-talk to and answer myself

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[00:00.000 --> 00:26.640] Welcome to the DONT PICK THE SCAB PODCAST, with the premise of connecting man over 40 with [00:26.640 --> 00:32.640] the tools and community to thrive in their divorce recovery either before, during, or after [00:32.640 --> 00:39.920] the divorce. Check it out. Welcome out there to DONT PICK THE SCAB PODCAST, with the K-SHON, [00:39.920 --> 00:47.680] and I'm going to write K-SHON Cooper from Atlanta. He is an inspirational speaker, founder of Champion [00:47.680 --> 00:53.040] Nation dedicated to transforming lives of men, women, and children, an exceptional author, [00:53.040 --> 00:58.000] captain, and speaker. Known for his unique ability to ignite the best in everyone, [00:58.000 --> 01:04.560] his works such as What If I Am, Four Stage of the Life, the champion father, What If I Am, [01:04.560 --> 01:11.520] the Four Stages in Life 14s, and $30 to transform your life in 30 days journal. [01:12.240 --> 01:17.200] So how did you come to create Champion Nation, and what exactly is it? [01:17.600 --> 01:24.560] That is a great question. How did I come to create the champion nation, all my life? I'm going to [01:24.560 --> 01:34.720] sound like the color purple. All my life I had to fight. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It was so be fitting. [01:37.120 --> 01:42.880] But, you know, all my life, and my dad, he doesn't mind me disclosing this. My dad got locked up, [01:42.880 --> 01:48.800] and it's so crazy. Once again, offline, we were talking about trauma, and you think you're healed [01:48.800 --> 01:53.360] from certain situations until a trigger comes along. My father and I, we were talking a few [01:53.360 --> 01:58.720] days ago, just about, you know, just going back and forth, and somehow we ended up on the discussion [01:58.720 --> 02:04.160] of the time that he got locked up. And he said, how old were you, son? I said, I don't know. [02:04.160 --> 02:09.760] He said, were you 11? I said, nah, I wasn't 11. Then we started doing a math and everything. He said, [02:09.760 --> 02:18.160] oh, you were six. He was six when I got locked up. I said, yeah, dad. I was six. And my dad was [02:18.160 --> 02:26.160] going for a while. And dealing with that, and one of the things that he told me when he had those, [02:27.040 --> 02:33.360] those silver bracelets on, he had one mandate and one mandate only before the cops took him off [02:34.320 --> 02:40.320] to the back of the courthouse. He said, you're the man in the house now, all right? Your job is [02:40.320 --> 02:45.600] to protect mommy and protect your sister. That's it. You're the man in the house. That was his [02:45.600 --> 02:52.960] closing words. That's the way, oh, his parting words. That's the way it was. And going through [02:52.960 --> 02:58.880] all of that at six years old and matriculating through elementary school, which I absolutely hated. [02:59.840 --> 03:03.920] And then I got to middle school and started getting bullied and all that other stuff. [03:04.800 --> 03:11.760] Then go to high school. Then I thought I became a ladies man in high school. That landed me in [03:11.760 --> 03:24.480] some some crap. And it's just been an uphill battle. And I came to the conclusion on paper. [03:25.440 --> 03:30.960] It was me and my cousin, Kenyon. Him and I, we were talking to a neighbor. And he said, [03:30.960 --> 03:38.080] he said, I'm looking at you, Kishan. He said on paper, it's not good for you. It's not the projection [03:38.080 --> 03:44.320] that I'm looking at. Your dad and this and fatherless home. It doesn't look good for you. But I like [03:44.320 --> 03:49.840] your grit. I like your ambition. I like the way you dream. I like the way you can see past the storm. [03:49.840 --> 03:55.120] I like, although you are physically in this predicament, but your mind is living in a dream. [03:55.120 --> 03:59.200] I like that stuff about you. And because you have that stuff going on, [03:59.200 --> 04:05.600] no matter what paper says, no matter what it says, you're going to overcome that if you continue [04:05.600 --> 04:12.560] to keep up what you're doing. And that was the birth of champion nation, but also the champion [04:12.560 --> 04:17.360] father book that I created. Because I honestly believe that each and each and every one of us, [04:17.360 --> 04:22.560] there is a champion that resides. Number one, you just have to become aware of it. And number two, [04:22.560 --> 04:29.040] you have to just embrace the champion that's in you, not by being a conformer to your past, [04:29.680 --> 04:38.400] but by confronting it. So the champion nation is a personal development company where we host [04:38.400 --> 04:42.560] websites, virtual websites and personal websites, podcasts, just like what we're doing. [04:43.520 --> 04:47.920] Now, several coaching things that we do confidence coaching. So that's that's another thing. And [04:47.920 --> 04:53.040] I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole. But when my dad was locked up, when a dad is removed, [04:53.040 --> 04:59.760] see my dad didn't walk away. That's the thing. He was removed from a situation. He was removed [04:59.760 --> 05:07.680] from the situation. What tends to happen to a young man's or young or young ladies confidence? [05:08.240 --> 05:15.360] They tend to have none. Right. Then, and this is by no shape or form to take away anything from [05:15.360 --> 05:22.320] the mother. But when the dad has been removed from the house by other circumstances, that child's [05:22.320 --> 05:32.000] confidence is in the toilet. And therefore he or she began to do and perform certain actions to lift [05:32.000 --> 05:36.560] their confidence. And those actions aren't necessarily the greatest actions in the world. [05:36.560 --> 05:43.360] And those actions can lead you down a series of poor choices. And following that trajectory, [05:43.360 --> 05:51.920] you end up dead or in jail. And based on those different things that I had to overcome, [05:52.480 --> 05:58.560] I said, you know what, damn it, I'm a champion. I'm a champion. I don't care what's going on. [05:58.560 --> 06:04.240] I want the best for myself, but not just for myself, David. I want the best for other people. [06:04.320 --> 06:11.600] Like I can literally see the best in other people, even at their worst. Now, it doesn't mean I may [06:11.600 --> 06:21.600] like them, but I can still see the best because we all have some godlike potential to be more, [06:21.600 --> 06:28.880] do more, have more and live more. Gotcha. What are the five C's to building confidence and esteem? [06:29.840 --> 06:36.480] That's a great question. You have courage you have. And I'm going to, I know you asked about [06:36.480 --> 06:41.360] five that I'm going to touch on the main ones if I don't mind, if you don't mind, excuse me. [06:42.720 --> 06:48.400] It is confidence, right? Confidence, obviously, the five C's are confidence. Yes, it's confidence [06:48.400 --> 06:56.320] and it's courage, it's communication, commitment, and it's competence at the same time, right? [06:56.880 --> 07:00.240] So let's just talk about courage before we talk about anything else. [07:02.720 --> 07:11.040] It takes courage to be confident. It takes courage as a man who's going through divorce or who [07:13.280 --> 07:21.120] has been divorced. It takes courage to number one, admit to yourself that you know what, [07:21.840 --> 07:28.720] that if you had a part in it, you messed up, right? You messed up. It doesn't mean it's the end of the [07:28.720 --> 07:33.920] world. That's the thing. This is not, it's not the end of the world. So it takes courage to look [07:33.920 --> 07:39.440] yourself in the mirror and say, you know what, I messed up. It takes courage to say, I haven't heard [07:39.440 --> 07:43.440] from my kids in six months. I know the mother doesn't want, I know their mother doesn't want me [07:43.440 --> 07:48.560] talking to them. I'm going to shoot this text. What's going to happen when I shoot this text? [07:49.120 --> 07:53.760] You may get ignored, you may get cussed out, or you may get, hey, dad, I was thinking about you. [07:55.040 --> 08:02.320] It takes courage to do that. The other one is it takes commitment. What does commitment mean? [08:02.320 --> 08:12.000] It means to be wedded, wedded to that goal, to that courageous act, meaning I'm not going to stop [08:12.000 --> 08:21.360] until. I know quite a few guys, I haven't had any addiction issues, but just so happened, [08:21.360 --> 08:27.760] the last few brothers and last few men that I've encountered had cocaine addictions and addictions [08:27.760 --> 08:39.200] to Adderall. They have sought help from those different things. But when you're looking to make a [08:39.200 --> 08:45.280] commitment to being courageous, you have to look yourself in the mirror and say, [08:46.720 --> 08:53.760] why do I do drugs? Or why am I addicted to alcohol? Do I like it? It takes courage to look [08:53.760 --> 08:59.040] yourself in the mirror and ask yourself those questions. But you also have to be committed [08:59.040 --> 09:05.920] to the courageous act of acting, of asking yourself those questions. And also communication. [09:06.560 --> 09:09.600] We always talk about, you know, you got to be a good communicator, a good communicator, [09:09.600 --> 09:17.280] oral written communicator. And I always say the most important person, now they laugh at me in [09:17.280 --> 09:22.000] my house, because I tell them I do talk to myself, I do talk to myself, and I answer myself. Yes, [09:22.000 --> 09:28.240] I do. And they laugh at me. They're like, Oh, here we go. K is talking to himself. And you know, [09:28.240 --> 09:35.200] he's going to answer himself. Yeah, I talk out loud so I can hear my thoughts. And then I begin to [09:35.680 --> 09:43.040] what they call it, mind map. I begin to place things. Oh, okay. Well, every time this happens, [09:43.040 --> 09:48.960] this is the way I respond. Why I respond this way because of that. So keeping an open line of [09:48.960 --> 09:55.760] communication with yourself, you know, one of the most interesting things that men [09:56.880 --> 10:01.680] can do is we can tell our kids, we love them, we can tell our spouses, we love them, we can tell [10:01.680 --> 10:05.920] everybody, our mother, our father, everybody, we love them. You know, you can ask them, Hey, [10:05.920 --> 10:10.160] what's the last time you told yourself we love yourself? Oh, I don't, I mean, I haven't done [10:10.160 --> 10:17.520] that in a while. Have you done it at all? I don't, I've never done that. Why? Well, [10:17.520 --> 10:21.360] I know for me in my house, especially with my dad and I being there, you know, my mother taught [10:21.360 --> 10:29.040] me to do David. Guess what she said? Men don't cry. Yeah. Did you ever have that growing up? [10:29.120 --> 10:34.880] Oh, yeah. Definitely. Don't cry. Yep. Men don't cry. My mother had to be tough when my dad wasn't [10:34.880 --> 10:39.520] there. Therefore, my mother did not. I think my mother told me maybe once or twice growing up [10:39.520 --> 10:44.720] that she loved me. Right. By the time my father got out of jail, he came back. And it's the same [10:44.720 --> 10:50.000] thing. My, my, my mother and father, they didn't say that word. Hence, what do you think happened [10:50.000 --> 10:56.240] to me? What did not tell me? Love you didn't love yourself. Right. Right. Right. So there [10:56.240 --> 11:01.520] wasn't an open line of communication with myself. So we have courage, we have commitment, [11:01.520 --> 11:05.680] and we have confidence, because yeah, we have confidence. You have to be confidence to be [11:05.680 --> 11:11.120] courageous, committed, and to keep an open line of communication with yourself and competence. [11:13.280 --> 11:18.320] I think in order to know where you want to go, you got to know where you are and be authentic [11:18.320 --> 11:23.120] with yourself. You know, you talk about, you brought up a couple of titles that I wrote, [11:23.840 --> 11:28.320] what if I am, you know, it talks about the four stages in life, drive, reverse, [11:28.320 --> 11:33.520] nutrient park. And how I came up with that idea, one day I was sitting at a green light, [11:33.520 --> 11:37.840] excuse me, a red light in Baltimore. And I was just sitting there. Have you ever been sitting, [11:37.840 --> 11:41.920] have you ever sat in your car, David, and at a red light, you drifted off into another world? [11:41.920 --> 11:44.160] Yeah. And then I'm saying you're a horn behind you. [11:46.240 --> 11:53.040] Oh, it was that. Yeah. So that was me. I was at Baltimore. The horn did not honk [11:53.040 --> 11:57.600] at me, but I was sitting there and at the red light and I just drifted off into another realm. [11:57.600 --> 12:02.000] And when I came back, I'm like, oh, wow, there's four gears on my car. I'm looking down. I'm like, [12:02.000 --> 12:08.320] okay, there's park, reverse, nutrient drive. In order for me to get to drive, there are three [12:08.320 --> 12:17.200] other gears I need to get through to get to drive. And the way that I get to drive, I need to apply [12:17.200 --> 12:24.480] pressure to the brake to get from one stage to the next to the next. [12:25.520 --> 12:32.000] So in order to get to drive, you got to know, hey, am I in park? Am I in my life? Am I in reverse? [12:32.000 --> 12:37.280] Am I in neutral? The thing about neutral? Neutral is that stage on your car. You know, [12:37.280 --> 12:40.880] you can vacillate between neutral without even hitting the brake. You ever done that by mistake, [12:40.880 --> 12:45.120] you drive it on a highway and hit the gear. And the car's like, oh, whoa, I'm in neutral. [12:45.120 --> 12:50.080] You just brought it back to drive and the car just kicks off. It's one of those, those [12:50.080 --> 12:54.960] those, those, those, those, you choose that, that stage. So for the, your guys that are, and [12:54.960 --> 13:00.880] your men, your fathers who are divorced and listen to this, it's identifying what stage and [13:00.880 --> 13:07.360] life that you are. And that's the competence part. So I just touched on having the confidence [13:07.360 --> 13:13.120] to be courageous and you got to be committed to open communication with yourself and the competence [13:13.200 --> 13:18.480] part. And how you and how you able to move from one step to the next is figuring out where you are [13:19.040 --> 13:28.320] right now. So how do we figure into resiliency? That's, that's, that's not a C, but it, but that [13:28.320 --> 13:34.480] fits in there too, I think, you know, you have that, have that gumption to, to keep after it and [13:34.480 --> 13:40.800] don't give up. Well, that is a C. It's the commitment part. Yeah, it's commitment you got. That's the [13:40.800 --> 13:46.000] only way. Literally, that's the only way I've made it to where I'm at now. You know, I've been, [13:46.880 --> 13:54.320] you know, I've had we possess cars, you know, been homeless before, you know, precuriously [13:54.320 --> 14:02.080] house. I've gone from the foul bankruptcy, not once but twice, contemplating on doing it again. I mean, [14:02.080 --> 14:10.400] but you know, I've been down that, that road where you like, no, this is not for me. This is, [14:10.400 --> 14:17.040] this is not for me. And then something snaps. I can't tell you what the something is. I wish I could. [14:17.040 --> 14:22.160] I wish I had a magic formula to tell you that when this happened, that happens. No, it's just [14:23.200 --> 14:27.600] something inside is a burning desire. And I don't know what that burning desire is for you, David, [14:27.760 --> 14:34.560] listeners and your viewers. I don't know. But for me, it's, I can't go out like this. My mother, [14:36.000 --> 14:43.600] 23 hours in labor, that can't be in vain. My mother passed away six years ago. I'm even now, [14:43.600 --> 14:53.920] it's like, I cannot settle no matter how hard it gets. Les Brown says, when you fall, try to land on [14:53.920 --> 15:02.320] your back, because if you could look up, you can get up, right? So that's the thing. It has to be [15:02.320 --> 15:07.600] something inside of you. It has to be your will, it has to be your imagination. My wife gets on [15:07.600 --> 15:11.760] me all the time. I love window shopping. Why do you think I like window shopping, David? [15:12.800 --> 15:18.800] Interesting. Let me know. Okay, I love window shopping because I get an opportunity [15:19.680 --> 15:26.080] to visualize something that I want. I can touch it. I can feel it. Now, my wife, she's different. [15:26.080 --> 15:30.640] She don't like window shopping. I don't know too many women that like window shopping, but I love [15:30.640 --> 15:36.080] window show. I want that. I want to know. I want even entertainment if I can't have it right now, [15:36.080 --> 15:43.200] right? But wait, guys, we went, at least I do. I window shop. Hey, I may go on Amazon and just [15:43.200 --> 15:46.800] scroll. Oh, okay, you know, I'm gonna get that. Well, even with a car, there's a particular car [15:46.800 --> 15:52.960] that I want that I truly desire. I got to roll my screen saver. I know somebody that has. [15:52.960 --> 15:57.440] Which one? Why are you gonna do that to me? Come on, which one? I look to know mine. Come on, [15:57.440 --> 16:01.840] give it to me. Yeah, it's a Rose Royce truck. White Roy Rose Royce truck. [16:01.840 --> 16:08.000] I just want the series eight BMW, the big one, either or the eight. Give me something. [16:10.480 --> 16:13.200] Hey, give me eight cars. I don't care if it's Toyota. I just went eight. [16:14.080 --> 16:19.680] Give me the eight series or give me the eight. I want something big. I want to be able to drive [16:19.680 --> 16:31.520] and sleep in the backseat. There you go. There you go. There you go. You talk about we are built to [16:31.520 --> 16:37.680] last. Oh, yeah. How does that affect you? Yeah, yeah, you can see how all of this is tying up. [16:37.760 --> 16:44.560] You see how it really, really is all interrelated. About 15 years ago, just per se, I don't remember [16:44.560 --> 16:53.520] the exact date. My daughters and I, I was walking them to school on one cold, not a Colorado cold, [16:53.520 --> 16:58.480] but they bought tomorrow cold day. Oh, that's even worse. Yeah, yeah, you're right. [16:59.600 --> 17:04.240] So it was cold in the winter. So we decided to walk for whatever reason we decided to [17:04.240 --> 17:09.760] they wanted to walk. So we walk. And my youngest daughter, she said something that was pretty [17:09.760 --> 17:16.000] remarkable. Actually, both my daughters. My youngest daughter, she said, and she was, it was elementary [17:16.000 --> 17:23.520] school. She said, you know, daddy, I feel sorry for those trees over there. Look at them. They cold. [17:23.520 --> 17:28.240] Look at them. They're really cold. And I, you know, me, I'm cold. I heard them. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, [17:28.240 --> 17:34.160] whatever. I mean, let's keep it moving. My oldest daughter replied to her statement and said, [17:34.800 --> 17:39.200] don't worry about the trees. Ah, they were built to last. I said, [17:40.160 --> 17:50.480] being the light bulb, the light bulb. What did you say? What did you just say? She's like, oh, I said, [17:50.480 --> 17:56.000] the trees were built to last. And boy, oh boy, that messed me up. As we were walking to school, [17:56.000 --> 18:00.560] I said, she's right. The same tree that I walked past in the summer is the same tree that I walked [18:00.560 --> 18:04.320] past in the winter, the same tree that I walked past in the winter. The same tree that I walked by [18:04.320 --> 18:10.000] in the fall and the same tree that I walked by in the fall is the same exact tree that I walked by [18:10.000 --> 18:18.000] in the spring. Wow. She's right. The trees are built to last. Now, in the winter months, [18:18.640 --> 18:23.600] they lose their leaves. But I've never seen a tree that lost their leaves that got up and said, [18:23.600 --> 18:26.800] you know what? I don't have any leaves. I'm going somewhere else. I'm done. [18:26.800 --> 18:33.360] I've never seen that. I got trees outside of my house right now. I'm looking at, you know, [18:33.920 --> 18:38.720] I got some evergreen, some pine trees, then I got some other trees and they don't have leaves [18:38.720 --> 18:45.200] on them, but they still there. Yeah. And they're still there. Yeah. After, yeah. After, yeah. [18:45.760 --> 18:54.320] They're out live us. We're no different. We're no different than the trees. There's nothing [18:54.400 --> 19:01.120] about us that's different. Yeah. After years, issue after issue situation after situation. [19:01.120 --> 19:06.320] The tree never says, Oh, wow, the birds left me the squirrels left me. I can't do this anymore. [19:06.320 --> 19:12.640] Or people are throwing garbage on me. I don't I feel less than a tree. No, the tree is like, [19:12.640 --> 19:17.360] yo, bump it. I don't care. I'm a tree regardless. I'm going to stick my roots down. I'm going to [19:17.360 --> 19:23.520] grow my branches out. And when the time comes, my leaves are going to come in. And that's the way [19:24.080 --> 19:33.440] we are as human beings. Interesting. So what would you metaphor metaphor lies? Wasn't even a word. [19:33.440 --> 19:35.200] So what are they? Okay, it's a sound good. [19:38.080 --> 19:40.400] It's not like I was shocked. Over there, making a word. [19:48.480 --> 19:52.960] So what metaphor are they? Okay. So what can the leaves be in your life? [19:53.600 --> 19:59.280] That's a great question. The leaves can be opportunities. Okay. The leaves can be family. [20:00.080 --> 20:07.840] The leaves, the thing about the leaves, the leaves is you as an individual, you put meaning to the [20:07.840 --> 20:19.680] leaves, right? But the roots, it's so crazy. As much as a tree is built to last, cut off a branch [20:20.240 --> 20:24.800] from the bark and see how long that tree, that branch lasts. [20:26.480 --> 20:32.000] Well, it won't, we'll begin to dry rot and then all of a sudden it becomes nothing. It becomes just [20:32.720 --> 20:39.200] mulch. It's nothing. So the most important part is the bark is staying connected. Now, [20:39.200 --> 20:42.880] the question you may ask yourself, well, you may actually want to ask me is stay connected to [20:42.880 --> 20:48.480] whom to what? Now, if you're a spiritual person, you stay connected to the universe. You stay [20:48.480 --> 20:54.320] connected to the absolute, the truth. You stay connected to God. You stay connected to whatever [20:54.320 --> 21:00.880] that gives you that extra oath, because when those leaves are gone, when opportunities dry up, [21:00.880 --> 21:04.560] when the family walks away from you, when you feel like you're losing your mind, when you got to take [21:04.560 --> 21:09.440] every medication in the world to help with your mental health, you have anxiety, you're depressed, [21:09.440 --> 21:16.720] you're hearing things. I mean, what you got to stay connected to something, [21:17.920 --> 21:24.960] who is the saw you in your life? Or what is the saw you in your life? The saw you was there, [21:24.960 --> 21:30.720] the saw you was there for one thing and one thing only is to provide nutrients. That's it. [21:32.160 --> 21:38.960] So the meaning of the leaves can be anything that you could put, you could put it health. [21:40.320 --> 21:44.640] You know, I've heard guys, you know, you have stage three prostate cancer. [21:45.200 --> 21:52.000] No, those are leaves that are just falling off. What do you do? Do you give up on life? What [21:52.000 --> 21:56.160] a doctor say, hey, I'm giving you 12 months and you're going to rock and roll and make those the [21:56.160 --> 22:03.840] best 12 months till you stop breathing. Like I said, the tree never gets up and say, my leaves are [22:03.840 --> 22:10.800] gone. I'm out of here. The tree is there until when knocks it over until it gets chopped down or [22:11.520 --> 22:22.800] or just dies. I like that. The ABCs of self motivation. Yeah, that's that's that's good. That's good. [22:22.800 --> 22:26.080] I like the ABCs of self motivation and I have I have a little book right here. [22:26.880 --> 22:33.440] It's a journal where I got that from. I don't like complex stuff. I don't know if you can tell [22:33.440 --> 22:39.600] from my conversation. I try to take things and make it facing. Yeah. Yeah. You know, [22:39.600 --> 22:45.600] when people start talking all that complex stuff, my mind, I pick up my phone. I'm looking at Google. [22:45.600 --> 22:53.760] I mean, I drift off trucks. Hey, scroll and scroll. I'm window shopping. [22:56.320 --> 23:02.320] Yeah, I'm window shopping, but I try to make things as simple as possible that I can go into [23:02.400 --> 23:08.400] an elementary school and talk. And I've done it before I go to I go to universities and speak. [23:09.760 --> 23:16.160] And everybody understands it is nothing like, Oh, wow, this is too complex. But the ABCs of self [23:16.160 --> 23:23.680] motivation, I'm not going to go to all 26. But there are a few of them that I do like. And here, [23:23.680 --> 23:31.360] here is the book right here is a journal that I that I have that I use and and K. [23:31.440 --> 23:37.280] No, my name stands, stands with K. And K is, you know, keep trying no matter how difficult things [23:37.280 --> 23:45.600] may seem. If your viewers and listeners do not hear or listen to anything else, I have said [23:46.560 --> 23:52.080] that one piece of advice that one piece of advice can revolutionize the entire life. [23:53.440 --> 23:59.280] You just keep trying no matter how things get no matter how difficult, because guess what? [24:00.000 --> 24:09.760] It's not going to stay like that, man. Failure is not final. It just isn't. But the only way things [24:09.760 --> 24:17.520] will just look dismal for the rest of your life is if in here, all you see is dismal. [24:18.800 --> 24:25.520] The tree knows that when the leaves fall in the fall season, the tree knows that spring time [24:25.600 --> 24:31.840] is going to come back again. Life is cyclical. It is here in Georgia. I don't know what time [24:31.840 --> 24:36.880] I don't know what time of year your leaves begin to blossom, but it's so crazy. Our leaves are still [24:36.880 --> 24:43.440] falling in December. Would you believe that around February leaves are starting to bloom again? It's [24:43.440 --> 24:49.360] almost like, Hey, it's a short timeframe. It's just sometimes when you go into hell, it just winter [24:49.360 --> 24:56.640] seems like the longest season, but it's only the same three months, depending on where you're living. [24:58.160 --> 25:04.880] Here in Georgia, our winter is literally the end of December, all of January, while we're in [25:04.880 --> 25:10.640] January now, and it's yesterday was 70 degrees. When it was 14 degrees last week, I was like, [25:10.640 --> 25:15.520] I hate this place. Why did I move here? I need to move somewhere else. Where's warmer? [25:16.000 --> 25:23.280] But now it was cold. Yeah, my windows are going to be down. You just keep going, no matter how [25:23.280 --> 25:29.840] things get difficult. That cave reminds me of it was one of those songs back in the day. Keep on [25:29.840 --> 25:35.680] keeping on. Keep on keeping on my brother. There you go. Keep on keeping on L is for you know, [25:35.680 --> 25:42.880] love yourself. I don't know if we talked about it offline or during this online, love yourself. [25:42.880 --> 25:54.480] That's like, come on guys, we cannot give what we don't have. All right. And what I mean is, [25:55.360 --> 26:01.600] if you can imagine if we imagine if we just loved on ourselves, a love like, Hey, hey, [26:01.600 --> 26:07.040] hey, Kishan, I love you, man. For what? Just for being you, really? Yeah, just for being you. [26:08.800 --> 26:12.560] What about I didn't get the promotion I thought I was going to get? Man, that doesn't matter. [26:12.560 --> 26:17.360] I still love you for you. I know it may sound a little weird like, Oh, man, I'm not saying that [26:17.360 --> 26:21.760] to myself. But no, David, when was the last time you had you told yourself we love you just for you, [26:21.760 --> 26:26.560] being you, not for being the host of the podcast, not for being a professional in your community, [26:26.560 --> 26:33.920] not for doing this, not for them. No, no, no, no, no. But loving you for just being you with [26:33.920 --> 26:40.800] every single proclivity and every single flaw. I was I was talking to a guy the other day, [26:40.800 --> 26:46.240] he said, Kishan, we are born now, these are, this is for people who believe this stuff, [26:46.240 --> 26:53.040] but I happen to believe this. He said, Kishan, we are born in the image of God. Do you believe that? [26:53.040 --> 27:00.080] Yeah, yeah. I said, yeah. He said, um, it's God perfect. I said in every which away. [27:01.680 --> 27:03.120] He said, so let me ask you this question. [27:03.120 --> 27:05.760] But I'll see you be able to see therefore, a cool seat. [27:06.560 --> 27:13.280] All day long, all day long. And I was like, I was like, hmm. [27:14.800 --> 27:21.840] Yeah. He has a point in every way and every with all your flaws. And like I said, [27:21.840 --> 27:29.360] but you are perfect because God made you not partially in his image. He didn't give you like a foot. [27:29.360 --> 27:36.000] He didn't give you like a head. He didn't get nah nah. He made you in in in its totality [27:36.560 --> 27:48.320] in his image. And there is nothing imperfect about God. Everything is perfect about God. [27:49.760 --> 27:55.120] So love yourself because you are perfect in every which away. Now you may have some [27:55.600 --> 28:00.400] character flaws. Now you may be a liar, still a thief, a cheater, a lie, you know, gambler. [28:01.760 --> 28:04.720] Now you may be all wrong, but you don't ever do another leaf. [28:10.640 --> 28:15.520] But if you are open with yourself, hey, I'm a gambler. Man, I will blow my entire mortgage on [28:15.520 --> 28:23.040] all right. Now we're getting somewhere. But even in taking a step like that, that's a form of love. [28:23.920 --> 28:31.600] You're not saying you're not saying, hey, do you have a gambling problem? Oh, no, not me. Oh boy. [28:32.400 --> 28:37.520] Are you serious? No, no, I'm good. I'm good, bro. I'm good. I don't need any help. [28:38.080 --> 28:41.280] That's not a form of self love. That's a form of self hate. [28:42.160 --> 28:46.720] You're not honest with yourself. Learn to yourself. Yeah, you're lying to yourself. [28:46.720 --> 28:51.040] And the one thing I talk to my wife, man, people always talk about liars. Like, you know, [28:51.120 --> 28:55.440] I don't like people that lie is me that line. I'm like, for real. I don't like people that [28:55.440 --> 29:00.640] lie to themselves. That's the biggest one. And you're a lot of me. I may find out. I may find out. [29:00.640 --> 29:08.000] I may not find out. But you lie to yourself. Oh my gosh. And if you're willing and comfortable [29:08.000 --> 29:12.560] with lying to yourself, only God knows who else you're going to lie to and how you're going to [29:12.560 --> 29:16.400] lie to. So, you know, look yourself and I'm just going to touch on one more. And I'm not, [29:16.400 --> 29:22.480] I'm not trying to be labor or conversation. But I'm enjoying. I'm enjoying this, David. [29:25.040 --> 29:32.000] Yeah, you're after this podcast. Say the guy. Say the guy. Look up at that truck after this podcast. [29:32.000 --> 29:35.680] Oh, man. Yeah, because you are you are like that truck. You don't you don't like that truck. [29:36.240 --> 29:44.720] And the last one is C consider things from every angle. A few years ago, actually, man, [29:44.720 --> 29:49.520] it wasn't even a few years ago. It was last year to happen twice. And it's coming back from [29:49.520 --> 29:55.840] Miami. I don't know why it happens. So my wife and I and our son, we dropped off our other son to [29:55.840 --> 30:05.040] Miami to go to college there. And we were landing, right? We were landing. And as we were landing, [30:06.400 --> 30:14.480] guess what happened? What do you think happened? It was a touch and go. It wasn't even a touch. It was [30:14.480 --> 30:28.240] literally and we were flying spirit. So my heart. Hey, spirit, nothing against you. I don't know if [30:28.240 --> 30:38.560] you sponsor this podcast or not. But we were flying spirit. I was like, there's Steve. I looked over [30:38.560 --> 30:47.520] at my wife. See, we should have flocked alone another airmine. So it was bam. And the the pilot [30:47.520 --> 30:55.120] copilot came on only after 15 minutes, really, only. So we're sitting there just. And finally, [30:55.120 --> 30:59.360] she said, Hey, there was another plan landing while excuse me, another plan taken off while we [30:59.360 --> 31:05.440] were landing. And you know, they had to make some adjustments, right? And we had to fly around the [31:05.440 --> 31:11.520] airport and all this other stuff then. Finally, we were given the goal to land again. [31:12.480 --> 31:21.280] And that's the example I use to consider things from every single angle. When you think you're [31:21.280 --> 31:28.080] about to land in on a on a on a on a conclusion, like we talked about guys who want control. [31:28.080 --> 31:32.800] Why do you want control? Well, my daughter's not in my son. He's over there. Okay, consider [31:32.800 --> 31:37.520] things from every angle. How do you think you're your ex wife? Put yourself in her shoes, [31:37.520 --> 31:43.040] put yourself in the kid's shoes, put yourself in everybody else's shoes, and consider things [31:43.040 --> 31:48.720] from from every angle. And sometimes in life, and I use your your your your words or your phrase, [31:48.720 --> 31:51.680] David, sometimes in life, you have to touch and go. [31:55.040 --> 32:01.040] Deep. So we were talking about lying earlier. And what are some of the common [32:01.040 --> 32:11.520] conceptions and myths about healing and wellness? What do people either abuse or misspeak? You [32:11.520 --> 32:15.440] know, what are some of the things that you've seen over the years that people don't need it? [32:15.440 --> 32:23.600] They don't need it. That's the biggest one. They're not they're not open to it because they don't [32:23.600 --> 32:30.080] need it. And once they are open to it, they think that one or two sessions, they're done. [32:31.040 --> 32:40.880] I'm healed. Yeah. Like Jesus at the at the what are the pools where he healed the God, the blind [32:40.880 --> 32:50.800] guy, spitting some mud. Hey, hey, you, yes, you, don't grant me some mud so I can spit in it. [32:52.720 --> 32:54.560] And you're healed. But [33:00.960 --> 33:04.000] that's one of the things that that people [33:06.960 --> 33:10.240] it really does. Like I was said, you know, I'm talking about myself. [33:11.680 --> 33:17.840] When my ex-wife started yelling at me, it really sent me down a rabbit hole that I thought [33:18.720 --> 33:25.840] that I had gotten over. I thought that, oh, wow, yeah, this and that's because out of sight out of [33:25.840 --> 33:32.160] mine, but when you're presented with something again, the same thing, you still see. And for me, [33:32.160 --> 33:38.720] I still reacted. Well, actually, no, I didn't. I almost did. That's why I disconnected the phone. [33:38.720 --> 33:42.960] Yeah. Because if I were to stay on the phone, it would have turned into a yellow match. I would [33:42.960 --> 33:48.800] have been arguing with a woman that's not even my wife. Like how dumb is that? Like, like for real, [33:48.800 --> 33:55.360] like for me, like when I think about that, I'm like, I'm arguing with her. I don't care what she's [33:55.360 --> 34:00.720] doing. As long as she's not doing anything like crazy reckless around the kids, I'm having to waste [34:00.720 --> 34:05.840] my time arguing with you. So one of the misconceptions is thinking that you've gotten over something [34:05.840 --> 34:16.960] and you actually not over it, trying to rush the process. That's has been one of the biggest things. [34:16.960 --> 34:20.080] All right, what is this going to take about three sessions and we're done? [34:20.880 --> 34:31.360] Hmm. Wow. Wow. You ever you ever made a roast in an hour? No, you can't eat a roast in an hour. [34:31.360 --> 34:39.280] You ever try to make a turkey in 30 minutes? No. You're not even a turkey in 30 minutes, brother. [34:39.280 --> 34:44.720] It's going to take you about four hours in my house. They started cooking Thanksgiving turkey [34:45.280 --> 34:52.240] two nights before Thanksgiving. Slow roast. Slow. They didn't interrupt the [34:52.240 --> 34:59.040] process either. So it's the same thing. That's what I see. Okay. And in that same lights, [34:59.040 --> 35:07.840] what does some of the roblox look out for? In reference to healing and wellness. [35:08.480 --> 35:18.160] Um, some of the roblox is, um, it's really also financial, financially. Um, going to, I'm a firm [35:18.160 --> 35:22.400] believer talking to someone that's cool. But one of the other things I like to do is, um, [35:24.160 --> 35:32.800] it's fish, right? Trying to, um, the gym. I'm not a gym guy. I'm sitting down right now. If I [35:32.800 --> 35:38.320] stood up, you see that I am not a gym guy. Don't let, don't let shoulders up for you. [35:40.880 --> 35:50.880] But it's paid for. Now finance. There's no P I T I right here, baby. Absolutely. So some of the [35:50.880 --> 35:57.440] roblox or the biggest one is financially when people say, Hey, I want the service, but I can't [35:58.000 --> 36:07.680] afford it. Or I don't have the time. So time, um, and money has been one of the biggest obstacles [36:07.680 --> 36:16.720] for people who are now willing to take the journey to, um, to and through, uh, health and wellness. [36:17.280 --> 36:22.320] But you would think that the time factor would be decreased with, you know, with online stuff, [36:22.400 --> 36:28.640] but people still don't have time. I wish there was a real remedy or formula for time management, [36:29.200 --> 36:36.160] but in my experience, um, David and my, uh, industry that people make time for things are [36:36.160 --> 36:41.440] important to them. That's it. That's it. There's, there's nothing else to say. If it's important [36:41.440 --> 36:47.920] to you, you will make time for it. You will, um, set aside carve out some time. We all have the [36:47.920 --> 36:54.160] same 24 hours. Um, when I'm working on different projects, I spend time, uh, with my wife, then I [36:54.160 --> 37:00.160] have time with the, uh, our son, uh, and then I do this and did not do that. And then sometimes I [37:00.160 --> 37:06.000] may run on four to five hours of sleep. If it's important to you, you will figure it out. [37:06.720 --> 37:09.120] If it's not important to you, you continue to make excuses. [37:09.680 --> 37:13.440] Have you ever got up, moonlight and had an idea and had to go write it down? [37:13.760 --> 37:16.800] Yeah. Yeah. That's true. [37:19.040 --> 37:25.360] I'm going to talk about, I'm going to talk about the, the, the floor side of me. Um, I have [37:25.360 --> 37:31.040] woken up, had an idea, been too lazy and told myself, I remember when I wake up, go back to sleep, wake [37:31.040 --> 37:41.440] up. What was that idea? Dang, man. Why didn't I get up? I should have gotten up. Why would I [37:41.440 --> 37:46.720] so lazy? I should have just walked to my office, wrote it down, and then called it a day. Yeah, [37:46.720 --> 37:51.920] I've had that happen. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Okay. Sean, we want to thank you for [37:51.920 --> 37:56.560] hanging out with us. We're going to do this again for sure. You know, we just, we're at the top of [37:56.560 --> 38:03.360] the iceberg, but we hope, uh, some, uh, I think you dropped a knowledge for us. Matter of fact, [38:03.360 --> 38:08.640] I know you dropped a knowledge for us for my man over 40 divorcing and going through trying times [38:08.960 --> 38:15.200] and that devastating divorce thing. We're going to sign off here and have you come back again and [38:15.200 --> 38:20.960] we'll arrange some time and because we just hit the top, just the top of the, of the cream [38:20.960 --> 38:28.400] brulee. I, you know, my wife loves that dessert. Not me. I'm not eating no, no fried crusty, [38:28.400 --> 38:32.800] plain, custy. Oh, God. And she's like, Oh, can I get it with strawberries and blueberries? [38:32.800 --> 38:37.280] And I'll sit over there and I look at her like, do you want some? No. [38:38.160 --> 38:47.600] Okay. For us. Yeah. Absolutely. Hey, could I just, um, let the viewers know where they can find you [38:47.600 --> 38:52.240] and then I'll have a lot of contacts at the bottom of the show notes, but go ahead. Absolutely. [38:52.240 --> 38:58.320] That's exactly what I wanted to share with you. Um, Instagram, the champion nation, real simple. Um, [38:59.120 --> 39:08.880] uh, what else is this? I'm all linked in, Keshan Cooper, K-A-S-H-A-U-N, Cooper. And also, um, you can email, [39:08.880 --> 39:16.640] email, uh, Oh, champion nation, it is champion nation dot co, C-O. And you can email me, it is champion [39:17.520 --> 39:24.000] dot co at gmail dot com. And I reply, I don't have a virtual assistant and anything like that. [39:24.880 --> 39:31.360] Within 24 to 48 hours. Keeping it real. Keeping it real. No email me while I'm sleeping because I [39:35.200 --> 39:39.760] All right, sir. You have a good night and we appreciate it by listening, but I [39:39.760 --> 39:42.080] everybody take care of you. Love everybody. Take care. Transcription results written to '/home/forge/transcribe.sonicengage.com/releases/20240216173145' directory

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