Divorce Recovery and Trauma Coach - Alberta Jordan || Don’t Pick the Scab Podcast #030 || David M. Webb

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[00:00:33] Today we have a special guest, Alberta Jordan.

[00:00:36] This is episode 30.

[00:00:37] She is a divorce recovery and trauma coach.

[00:00:41] She's been through some trauma herself and two divorces so she knows what she's talking

[00:00:44] about.

[00:00:45] She is a bestselling co-author of Transforming Your Life Volume 6.

[00:00:52] It was number one to innate countries.

[00:00:55] Her chapter is entitled from pain to power, Transforming Your Trauma.

[00:01:01] Welcome Alberta Jordan to the show.

[00:01:03] Sure.

[00:01:04] First of all, thank you for having me on this show.

[00:01:07] Hello everyone.

[00:01:08] My name is Alberta Jordan and I am first and foremost a Christian.

[00:01:14] I am the mother of two delicious teenage boys and a divorce and recovery trauma coach

[00:01:19] with Exhilarated Life LLC.

[00:01:22] And I want to help you bounce back from your divorce trauma.

[00:01:26] At Exhilarated Life, we specialize in helping men and women who have suffered a bad divorce.

[00:01:33] Our customized programs that we offer help people bounce back powerfully, confidently,

[00:01:39] more purposefully, more whole, and more attractive in three months or less.

[00:01:45] That's it.

[00:01:46] They'll talk about the time.

[00:01:47] I'm a traumatized and pained divorce and the overwhelming feeling of having to start over.

[00:01:52] I'm a trauma survivor just like you.

[00:01:55] I have suffered physical abuse, sexual abuse, emotional abuse, verbal abuse, financial abuse

[00:02:01] and all that trauma got stuffed and ignored until it affected every area of my life.

[00:02:07] And I suffered a brain hemorrhage as a result.

[00:02:11] Seven months though after the brain hemorrhage determined to change my life and to create

[00:02:16] a better life for my sons, I pursued a master's degree.

[00:02:20] And I began working in medical settings where I found myself using my natural coaching abilities

[00:02:24] to coach trauma survivors.

[00:02:27] These are people who fell in acid, who had their limbs removed or whose lives were

[00:02:34] just turned upside down.

[00:02:36] But I coached them to help them to see that their life was not over.

[00:02:40] And in retrospect when I think about it, I've been coaching people all my life

[00:02:44] but I never considered the profession full time until that experience.

[00:02:51] And I began to get so much overwhelming feedback and demand for more that I started to consider

[00:02:56] the full time profession.

[00:02:58] So I obtained my professional coach certification and I now specialize in divorce recovery

[00:03:03] for trauma survivors.

[00:03:05] Wow.

[00:03:06] How does pain play a part in the transformation process?

[00:03:11] You know, you talk about pain being a factor of healing.

[00:03:16] How does that play?

[00:03:17] Right.

[00:03:18] So trauma survivors, when someone has been traumatized, their brain has been changed

[00:03:29] and that is like their main language that they respond to unfortunately.

[00:03:36] Trauma survivor has an unbelievable tolerance for pain.

[00:03:41] But it's that same method or mode that starts that transformation process.

[00:03:48] So when a trauma survivor like me, let's talk about me, when I had enough pain then I was

[00:03:55] able to, the wheels started turning for the transformation just to set the groundwork

[00:04:03] where the pain set the groundwork for the transformation.

[00:04:10] When I realized that enough was enough, that is when it begins.

[00:04:14] Okay.

[00:04:15] Now you're talking about how not let the trauma bind to a person?

[00:04:21] How does trauma bind to a person?

[00:04:23] Trauma changes the brain.

[00:04:24] It shuts down different parts of the brain.

[00:04:28] A person who is traumatized, they don't have self regulation, the ability to control

[00:04:35] themselves, the ability to control their impulses, to control their emotions, all of that has

[00:04:40] been affected because when the trauma happened it made that the victim feel like they didn't

[00:04:48] matter anymore.

[00:04:49] What you want doesn't matter.

[00:04:51] What you need doesn't matter.

[00:04:53] You don't matter.

[00:04:54] You're not important and that's how a trauma survivor typically feels.

[00:04:58] That's what happens.

[00:04:59] How does the pain help you develop the pain?

[00:05:02] I think just when you've had enough of the pain that you actually want to stop it.

[00:05:08] One of the reasons that it takes a lot of pain that a trauma person tolerates more pain

[00:05:16] is in many instances they have disassociated when the trauma happened so they don't feel

[00:05:24] pain as fast as a regular person who hasn't been traumatized.

[00:05:28] For example, when I was sexual abused later in my life, even if it was a situation where

[00:05:36] I was to feel good or somebody was trying to make me feel good, I would be floating

[00:05:42] above the experience instead of actually in my body feeling the experience.

[00:05:47] It takes time.

[00:05:49] Until the transformation process happened, until you have had enough and you start

[00:05:55] to feel the pain, you won't do anything because the bucket is so deep.

[00:06:02] Until the bucket starts to feel and you begin to realize, wait a minute, I've had enough.

[00:06:09] I have been living like this for years and years and years.

[00:06:13] I tell you something else that helped me was confrontation.

[00:06:17] I remember I was at work one day and I was complaining about something.

[00:06:20] A friend, this was somebody that was close to me that I knew loved me.

[00:06:24] When I heard them say, I'll burn a something always happening to you.

[00:06:30] At the moment in time, she said it was just the right time for me to actually

[00:06:34] hear it instead of blow it off.

[00:06:36] I sat back in my chair and I thought about what she said.

[00:06:39] And I thought, you know what?

[00:06:41] She's right.

[00:06:41] Something needs to change.

[00:06:44] But until a trauma survivor is ready, nothing will happen.

[00:06:48] Nothing will change.

[00:06:49] It doesn't matter how much somebody gets beat up by their spouse or how much harm

[00:06:55] they take from somebody taking advantage of them.

[00:06:58] If they are not ready, they will not exit the relationship.

[00:07:02] It has to be.

[00:07:03] They have to know when enough is enough for them.

[00:07:06] That is a perfect transformation there because I was just getting

[00:07:10] to where they asked you about the perpetual victim.

[00:07:13] Exactly.

[00:07:14] Yeah.

[00:07:14] So that is the perfect.

[00:07:16] Yeah.

[00:07:18] Wow.

[00:07:19] So let's talk about healthy boundaries and creating and getting out of toxic

[00:07:25] relationships. How do those pair each other?

[00:07:27] So a healthy boundary will prevent you from getting into a toxic relationship.

[00:07:33] I have unfortunately had my feel of toxic relationships.

[00:07:37] I have had experience being in a relationship with a narcissist, someone

[00:07:42] who did not care.

[00:07:45] First of all, did not love me.

[00:07:47] Second of all, does not care what you want, what you need.

[00:07:51] They will suck the life out of you.

[00:07:54] They attach to you to benefit for you to feel their need for attention

[00:08:00] and for to feel important and all of that.

[00:08:04] But then you will not receive that in reciprocal back.

[00:08:07] So can you define which is your readings to Vi red?

[00:08:11] You talked about the sense of agency and then the sense of self.

[00:08:16] Are they the same?

[00:08:17] Are they a little different?

[00:08:19] What's the difference between the two?

[00:08:20] The sense of self and the sense of agency.

[00:08:22] Your sense of self is your, your, um, it's like realizing who you are,

[00:08:28] knowing who you are intimately.

[00:08:31] Okay.

[00:08:31] And yes, it's separate from sense of agency.

[00:08:38] It builds toward a sense of agency.

[00:08:41] If you don't have a sense of self, you won't advocate for yourself or anything.

[00:08:46] You won't advocate what you need.

[00:08:48] Uh, trauma survivors, typically a people pleaser and they generally

[00:08:54] bend always towards someone else because they're afraid to rock the boat.

[00:08:58] They're afraid to be rejected.

[00:09:00] They don't advocate for anything that they want or need.

[00:09:03] Let's talk about self care.

[00:09:05] That's one of my favorite things in the podcast and, uh, my host

[00:09:08] and I originally talked about self in self care because a lot of people

[00:09:11] don't practice that.

[00:09:13] And I learned when one of my podcasts, one of my guests that you can self love

[00:09:18] self care, you can love other people but not have self love, which I thought

[00:09:23] that was interesting.

[00:09:25] So how do those two play a part?

[00:09:27] You know, that's an interesting concept.

[00:09:29] And I still chew on that concept about, um, loving somebody else

[00:09:33] without loving yourself.

[00:09:35] I think about, um, the Bible teaches to love your neighbor as yourself.

[00:09:41] And that's my foundation.

[00:09:43] Um, and so I understand how you can, um, care about whether the people

[00:09:50] wants and, you know, do for them.

[00:09:54] I'm really on defense still about how I feel about, about that.

[00:10:01] You know, those, that parallel.

[00:10:03] I'm going to come from the standpoint of what the Bible teaches, which is

[00:10:07] love your neighbor as yourself.

[00:10:09] And it's also within that, like a commandment for you to love yourself

[00:10:13] so that you can love your neighbor.

[00:10:15] Um, and that's just healthy with the trauma survivor.

[00:10:18] Yeah, they would split and they'll pay more attention to what someone else

[00:10:22] wants.

[00:10:23] Like I said, people pleasing, but they have to because they have been

[00:10:27] traumatized, you know, their self regulation is off.

[00:10:30] Um, they're, um, they're, they have on a trauma filter, which is very limited.

[00:10:36] And again, they don't feel important because of what was done to them.

[00:10:40] What they wanted didn't matter.

[00:10:42] They didn't matter.

[00:10:44] And so that's how they conduct their life.

[00:10:46] They pay more attention to what someone else wants.

[00:10:50] You know, what can I do to show them love?

[00:10:52] What about happiness?

[00:10:53] Happiness is the big deal.

[00:10:55] What, when I go and read it in Facebook and I talked to men going

[00:10:59] through their divorce over 40, they don't realize what they want.

[00:11:03] And my goal is to be happy within the confines of myself.

[00:11:09] And a lot of people don't know how to go get the happiness or even

[00:11:12] what it is.

[00:11:13] Indeed.

[00:11:14] So, um, happiness is different for everyone.

[00:11:17] And quite frankly, um, when I'm working with people, I don't focus

[00:11:21] on like obtaining someone in your life as a means to your happiness.

[00:11:26] We focus on building you up so that you are confident, so that you

[00:11:31] are powerful, so that you are more whole and more healthy and finding your purpose.

[00:11:37] When you are built up, you know, then you are, then you become happy

[00:11:44] and find those things that feel your life, but you can feel your own life

[00:11:49] just with you, just with the work that you do on yourself, filling

[00:11:54] your fill in all of those holes and those gaps and those bumps that we,

[00:11:57] that we obtain going through the, going through life.

[00:12:02] But we focus on you and then you become happy through the process

[00:12:07] and anything else you've had is gold.

[00:12:10] What is the concept of being your own hero?

[00:12:12] I thought that was interesting.

[00:12:14] That is interesting.

[00:12:15] And, you know, so funny you just said that.

[00:12:18] And you smile.

[00:12:19] So I've never thought about that, but I have had to be my own hero.

[00:12:25] It's almost like you have to advocate for yourself and be a hero.

[00:12:28] Okay. Exactly.

[00:12:30] Exactly.

[00:12:31] And so what you're doing is, and it's what I've had to do with my life.

[00:12:35] So I have suffered so much trauma even after growing up

[00:12:39] and becoming a woman.

[00:12:41] Like I said, the brain hemorrhage that I suffered and then cancer.

[00:12:45] I went through both of those by myself.

[00:12:49] I had to take care of myself.

[00:12:53] When you look around and you realize that nobody else is doing it,

[00:12:57] you need to do it.

[00:12:58] You need to become your own hero.

[00:13:00] You need to speak up.

[00:13:01] You know, it's almost like I discuss this with people,

[00:13:05] you know, when the plan is going down and the O2 mask comes down,

[00:13:08] you got to put yours on first and then your kids.

[00:13:10] Because you put your kids on first, you're gone.

[00:13:13] Yeah, you got to take care of yourself first.

[00:13:15] How do you take your power back when you go through trauma?

[00:13:19] You take your power back by by focusing the lens,

[00:13:24] taking that that flashlight or that lens,

[00:13:27] turning it around on you.

[00:13:30] You deserve the light.

[00:13:32] You deserve the heat.

[00:13:33] You deserve the warmth.

[00:13:36] You turn that on you.

[00:13:37] And when you turn it on you, you build you up, you fill in your holes

[00:13:42] and you help yourself become healthy.

[00:13:45] And so how does facing your past help you with that too?

[00:13:48] That's the first step.

[00:13:50] That is the first step.

[00:13:51] If you don't if you don't acknowledge what happened,

[00:13:54] you will not move forward.

[00:13:56] It will always weigh you down.

[00:13:58] You don't harp on the past.

[00:13:59] You just recognize the past and then move on from there.

[00:14:02] Right.

[00:14:03] Acknowledging is different than complaining and being stuck.

[00:14:06] OK, you want to acknowledge.

[00:14:08] And the other thing in your righties,

[00:14:10] you were talking about communication with yourself.

[00:14:12] Oh, yes, I couldn't understand it.

[00:14:14] Help me with that one, please.

[00:14:16] Sure. Sure.

[00:14:17] So be willing to change your language is what I said in the book.

[00:14:21] And as a part of the process of

[00:14:24] use, putting a stop and turning around

[00:14:27] and becoming your own hero and advocating for yourself,

[00:14:30] you have to be willing to change your language

[00:14:33] with yourself and with others.

[00:14:36] So typically a trauma survivor doesn't talk very nice to yourself

[00:14:40] when you wake up in the morning

[00:14:41] and you look in the mirror, what do you think?

[00:14:44] What do you say when you make a mistake?

[00:14:47] What do you say?

[00:14:48] What do you say to yourself?

[00:14:50] Oh, interesting.

[00:14:51] You know, be patient with yourself.

[00:14:53] Watch what you say to yourself because you are listening.

[00:14:57] Oh, I'm so stupid.

[00:14:58] Oh, I'm so no, you can't talk to yourself like that.

[00:15:01] Not if you're going to be your own hero.

[00:15:04] You won't get very far if you keep talking to yourself like that.

[00:15:07] So you watch you pay attention to how do I communicate with me?

[00:15:12] That is even more important

[00:15:14] to how do you communicate with somebody else?

[00:15:17] How do I communicate with me?

[00:15:18] What do I say when I want to do something?

[00:15:20] I can do it.

[00:15:21] I think I can do it or I'm not sure if I can do it.

[00:15:25] You know, what do you say?

[00:15:26] How are you going to communicate with others

[00:15:28] if you don't have a good communication skill with yourself?

[00:15:31] I'm going to advise people to give me a call so we can talk.

[00:15:34] To be at the resolve, the release, resolve and rejuvenate program

[00:15:38] is for them because I work on all of that.

[00:15:41] We go from, you know, this is a holistic program.

[00:15:43] We cover mind, body and spirit.

[00:15:46] And it's from beginning to end from step one.

[00:15:49] Step one is the release.

[00:15:52] That's the beginning, the beginning name of the program,

[00:15:55] release, resolve and rejuvenate.

[00:15:56] First, you got to release.

[00:15:58] You got to release the past, release the hurt.

[00:16:01] So you can let that weight off you.

[00:16:04] And what's the rejuvenate?

[00:16:06] What's the rejuvenate?

[00:16:07] The rejuvenate is it's the happy ending.

[00:16:12] OK, it's a happy ending.

[00:16:13] And, you know, this is a very customized program

[00:16:16] that we offer at Exilerated Life and the client

[00:16:21] the client customizes what that is.

[00:16:24] So as we work together and as we build the program.

[00:16:29] There they guide the program.

[00:16:31] Let's talk about one of my favorites, forgiveness.

[00:16:34] That's always the bomb in the room.

[00:16:36] Forgiveness, what's your view on that?

[00:16:37] Because I know you have a scripture view, of course.

[00:16:40] But what's your other view?

[00:16:42] So I'm going to be honest until I got really, really sick.

[00:16:45] I thought I had forgiven the wrong that was done to me.

[00:16:48] I forgave some of it.

[00:16:50] But sometimes when a particular thing has you so hurt,

[00:16:56] it could be hard to let that go.

[00:16:58] It could be very hard to let it go.

[00:17:00] So what I'm going to say is just to be patient with the process

[00:17:05] and just realize that you need to get to forgiveness,

[00:17:08] but it may take you some time.

[00:17:10] And if it takes you some time,

[00:17:12] that's OK.

[00:17:14] But some things that can help you in the forgiveness process

[00:17:17] is to, number one, realize that you need to forgive,

[00:17:20] realize that you haven't let it go.

[00:17:23] Something else you can do to help with the forgiveness process

[00:17:26] is whenever it comes up and bothers you,

[00:17:29] stop and acknowledge that and sit down and let it out,

[00:17:34] release it, journal it, talk it out,

[00:17:37] whatever you need to do to release that.

[00:17:39] Don't pretend like nothing's wrong.

[00:17:42] Because your body is not going to forget.

[00:17:44] Your body stores these toxins from these negative events

[00:17:49] that come in our life and we have to let that stuff go.

[00:17:52] So you want to acknowledge when you're uncomfortable,

[00:17:55] when something happened.

[00:17:58] And sometimes even you can feel bad and it's just in your gut

[00:18:02] and you just quite not sure why or what's going on.

[00:18:06] Acknowledge that your body is trying to get you to pay attention

[00:18:09] to yourself and to let you know that there's something that's needed.

[00:18:14] Wow, interesting.

[00:18:16] What is a empowered identity?

[00:18:18] That was one I struggled with.

[00:18:20] I couldn't figure that one out either.

[00:18:21] Ah, so an empowered identity is Alberta.

[00:18:28] So before now.

[00:18:32] I was not the sassy.

[00:18:34] Before now, I was.

[00:18:37] I was very trying not to use the typical term,

[00:18:41] but I'm going to have to do it anyway.

[00:18:42] I was very much a victim.

[00:18:44] Everything happened to Alberta.

[00:18:46] If I missed the bus, it was.

[00:18:49] It was the bus was, you know, it was somebody else's fault.

[00:18:52] It wasn't my fault that I got to the bus stop late.

[00:18:54] If I got to work late, it was all the bus,

[00:18:57] the bus, this or the bus back.

[00:18:59] This was in my early years.

[00:19:00] I'm thinking of some examples of victim.

[00:19:02] Nothing was ever my fault.

[00:19:04] You know, I never took responsibility

[00:19:07] and because I never took responsibility,

[00:19:09] I was always late for everything.

[00:19:11] No sense of importance

[00:19:13] and certainly not a sense of my importance in the world.

[00:19:18] I had no purpose.

[00:19:19] You know, I didn't believe I deserved good things.

[00:19:22] Didn't believe that I deserved to feel good.

[00:19:25] I was not negative, but I was downcast.

[00:19:28] You know, I was one of those people that people avoided.

[00:19:30] Like always see Alberta.

[00:19:31] Okay, we going that way

[00:19:32] because she's gonna have a sob story and we don't want to hear it.

[00:19:35] Okay.

[00:19:38] So now I'm very focused.

[00:19:40] My life is beautiful.

[00:19:42] I'm living my dream.

[00:19:45] It's almost like a mindset that you have to live it out.

[00:19:48] Yeah, just pretend I have three guys in the next room

[00:19:52] and I can take their skulls off

[00:19:55] and we could insert anything in their brain.

[00:19:59] So I have three guys that represent all the divorce men over 40

[00:20:03] and you have the chance to insert three most important things

[00:20:08] in your teachings.

[00:20:09] What three things would you put in their brain?

[00:20:12] Without the votes in the program.

[00:20:15] I'm going to tell you number one,

[00:20:17] the most absolutely important thing to start with

[00:20:20] is to always tell yourself the truth.

[00:20:23] That's what I would start with.

[00:20:24] Tell yourself the truth

[00:20:25] so that you can acknowledge what is going on.

[00:20:28] If you don't acknowledge what's going on,

[00:20:30] you can't do anything.

[00:20:31] You can't change anything

[00:20:33] and you can't realize anything.

[00:20:34] You can't even become better

[00:20:36] because you are ignoring what's going on.

[00:20:39] That's what got us in trouble in the first place.

[00:20:41] So I would give them a tip to help with these emotions.

[00:20:45] Divorce is notorious for making us feel overwhelmed

[00:20:50] and powerless and out of control.

[00:20:54] And what do we do with all these emotions?

[00:20:58] And if you have trauma in them,

[00:21:01] make sure your emotions are even more amplified.

[00:21:05] You're even more forgetful, dazed,

[00:21:08] listless, sensitive, disconnected,

[00:21:11] even suicidal at some points, at least I was.

[00:21:16] But your emotions are valid.

[00:21:17] Whatever you're feeling, they are valid.

[00:21:20] And so what I want you to do when you feel overwhelmed

[00:21:23] is to stop right where you are and take a deep breath.

[00:21:28] I want you to inhale for the count of four

[00:21:30] and exhale to the count of six.

[00:21:33] Now, the most important part of deep breathing

[00:21:36] is the exhale because that's the part

[00:21:38] that slows down and calms you down.

[00:21:42] That's two.

[00:21:43] That's two.

[00:21:44] Told you how to release your emotions.

[00:21:46] I told you to tell the truth.

[00:21:47] Also, I want you to focus on releasing the trauma

[00:21:53] from your mind.

[00:21:54] Whenever you feel crazy or feel anything,

[00:21:59] feel shut down.

[00:22:01] Even if you don't understand what the trigger is

[00:22:04] and why it happened.

[00:22:05] So sometimes you can just feel triggered.

[00:22:07] I want you to release that from your mind.

[00:22:10] So take some time to write it out,

[00:22:14] to let it out to release it.

[00:22:16] I know not everybody cares about journaling

[00:22:19] but let me tell you how important it is to your health.

[00:22:22] It provides a quiet, private way for you to release

[00:22:27] and you need to do that

[00:22:28] because trauma is buried in your mind.

[00:22:31] What happened, divorce is a terrible trauma

[00:22:34] and you need a way to help process that

[00:22:37] and you can't process it if you're walking around

[00:22:39] holding it inside acting like nothing is wrong.

[00:22:43] And my last question, what do you do to relax

[00:22:46] after you take all this in with people

[00:22:48] and you're helping people?

[00:22:49] What's your go-to?

[00:22:51] What's your thing?

[00:22:52] So I like a cup of hot chocolate.

[00:22:55] If it's not hot outside.

[00:22:58] I love to do foot baths to relax

[00:23:02] and reading and journaling.

[00:23:06] You don't have any go-to crazy TV shows?

[00:23:14] So I'm big on learning.

[00:23:16] I don't have a list of TV shows that I binge with.

[00:23:22] Although I do like that Love is Blind.

[00:23:25] I do enjoy that.

[00:23:25] Man, come on, you're another one.

[00:23:29] My daughter, my wife, my staff.

[00:23:36] Talking to the wall, talking to the wall.

[00:23:38] It's interesting because you learn from that.

[00:23:43] I will watch it and I can see why

[00:23:45] such and such is not gonna last

[00:23:47] or why that didn't work out or why it changed years.

[00:23:51] I can see it so it's interesting for me.

[00:23:55] Oh man, that does not surprise me.

[00:23:58] Well, it helps me help other people and that's the most,

[00:24:03] biggest, most important thing in my life

[00:24:06] is making an impact on the lives of others.

[00:24:08] Even over payment, I just wanna know

[00:24:10] that I'm helping you live a better life

[00:24:12] and so anything that I can take in

[00:24:15] during the course of the day

[00:24:17] that's gonna help me help somebody else,

[00:24:19] that's mainly how I spend my time.

[00:24:21] And so your sharpening,

[00:24:23] so your sharpening your skills on Love is Blind.

[00:24:26] Ha ha ha ha ha.

[00:24:29] But if you know what people watching.

[00:24:31] Oh yeah. People watching.

[00:24:33] Well, Alberta, we wanna thank you for taking time.

[00:24:35] This was fun.

[00:24:36] This was interesting.

[00:24:37] I can't wait to edit this one.

[00:24:39] This is gonna be a good one.

[00:24:40] Let us know where to find you on the web

[00:24:42] and I'll have that at the bottom of the show notes also

[00:24:44] but go ahead and tell the people where you are.

[00:24:47] Sure.

[00:24:48] So everyone, first of all,

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[00:25:41] Dang sweet.

[00:25:42] Well, thank you, Alberta.

[00:25:43] That was fun.

[00:25:45] We're about to do this again

[00:25:45] because I think we just scratched the surface.

[00:25:48] We wanna thank you very much

[00:25:50] and stay out of trouble down there in Memphis.

[00:25:52] We'll talk to you soon.

[00:25:54] Thanks.

[00:25:55] All right, bye-bye.

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